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	<title>Comments for Voices of the Colorado Dems</title>
	<link>http://blog.coloradodems.org</link>
	<description>The Colorado Democratic Party Blog</description>
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		<title>Comment on Joe Biden for Vice President by Steve Luera</title>
		<link>http://blog.coloradodems.org/2008/08/23/joe-biden-for-vice-president/#comment-31894</link>
		<author>Steve Luera</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 18:12:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.coloradodems.org/2008/08/23/joe-biden-for-vice-president/#comment-31894</guid>
					<description>Time to drag out that nasty “N” word. You know the one, can you spell narcissistic?!
Let’s see, he’s what, 47, has two years in the Senate, and already published two four hundred page autobiographies.!!

Has it ever occurred to him that others have also experienced awful oppression?  Has he actually even ever been discriminated against himself?  The way he’s taking women for granted, it sure doesn’t seem so. 

Anybody see the original Ocean's Eleven on PBS Saturday night?  Especially the part where Sammie Davis, Jr. stands around, leaning on a pool table, SMOKING, nodding his head while his buddies talk about bringing back slavery for women?  A black man just nodding his head. Yup, yup, yup. 

Sure seems like Obama's somebody's  puppet, and it doesn't even really matter who's. I guess they figure women have to vote for Obama because McCain’s pro-war and pro-life.  

Well some of us are pro-life progressives, and we’ve already killed all the innocent Iraqis, so Iraq just ain’t that big a deal anymore.

Besides, there’s always Nader.

So now we’re gonna get Brother Barry's Booty Call! 
(Yeh, we're inclusive.   We’ll include you in the harem, bitch!) 
OK Chickie Babies, heeeeeere's your big chance.  We really need some 'Bama Booty Babes! 
So come ooooooooon down!   
Let's do the Hillary Hump and Dump. 
StartShaking, StartBouncing, StartJumping! 
Let's get that pooty thumping. 
Get Wiggly. Keep Jiggly.  And Giggly. 
You're only good for humping. 
Silly Bitches for V.P.? 
Hell no, this show's 'bout ME! 
So mad you want to pee? 
Too bad, You’re hostage to this team!.

Gee, thanks Barry.  For creating more angry lesbians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Time to drag out that nasty “N” word. You know the one, can you spell narcissistic?!<br />
Let’s see, he’s what, 47, has two years in the Senate, and already published two four hundred page autobiographies.!!</p>
<p>Has it ever occurred to him that others have also experienced awful oppression?  Has he actually even ever been discriminated against himself?  The way he’s taking women for granted, it sure doesn’t seem so. </p>
<p>Anybody see the original Ocean&#8217;s Eleven on PBS Saturday night?  Especially the part where Sammie Davis, Jr. stands around, leaning on a pool table, SMOKING, nodding his head while his buddies talk about bringing back slavery for women?  A black man just nodding his head. Yup, yup, yup. </p>
<p>Sure seems like Obama&#8217;s somebody&#8217;s  puppet, and it doesn&#8217;t even really matter who&#8217;s. I guess they figure women have to vote for Obama because McCain’s pro-war and pro-life.  </p>
<p>Well some of us are pro-life progressives, and we’ve already killed all the innocent Iraqis, so Iraq just ain’t that big a deal anymore.</p>
<p>Besides, there’s always Nader.</p>
<p>So now we’re gonna get Brother Barry&#8217;s Booty Call!<br />
(Yeh, we&#8217;re inclusive.   We’ll include you in the harem, bitch!)<br />
OK Chickie Babies, heeeeeere&#8217;s your big chance.  We really need some &#8216;Bama Booty Babes!<br />
So come ooooooooon down!<br />
Let&#8217;s do the Hillary Hump and Dump.<br />
StartShaking, StartBouncing, StartJumping!<br />
Let&#8217;s get that pooty thumping.<br />
Get Wiggly. Keep Jiggly.  And Giggly.<br />
You&#8217;re only good for humping.<br />
Silly Bitches for V.P.?<br />
Hell no, this show&#8217;s &#8217;bout ME!<br />
So mad you want to pee?<br />
Too bad, You’re hostage to this team!.</p>
<p>Gee, thanks Barry.  For creating more angry lesbians.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Joe Biden for Vice President by Brian Owens</title>
		<link>http://blog.coloradodems.org/2008/08/23/joe-biden-for-vice-president/#comment-31136</link>
		<author>Brian Owens</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 16:52:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.coloradodems.org/2008/08/23/joe-biden-for-vice-president/#comment-31136</guid>
					<description>Interesting point of view. I'll consider changing my mind about this but for now I still don't see things the same way you do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting point of view. I&#8217;ll consider changing my mind about this but for now I still don&#8217;t see things the same way you do.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Weekend on the Western Slope by Kim Doyle Wille</title>
		<link>http://blog.coloradodems.org/2008/08/17/245/#comment-30845</link>
		<author>Kim Doyle Wille</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 16:46:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.coloradodems.org/2008/08/17/245/#comment-30845</guid>
					<description>Loved reading your 'diary' of the weekend events you enjoyed/endured and can't believe your articulate writings despite all you are doing and your wonderful attitude!  Thank you also for mentioning me and the photos.  You took me by surprise there!  Best wishes throughout the upcoming week.  You are a Colorado 'Treasure'.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Loved reading your &#8216;diary&#8217; of the weekend events you enjoyed/endured and can&#8217;t believe your articulate writings despite all you are doing and your wonderful attitude!  Thank you also for mentioning me and the photos.  You took me by surprise there!  Best wishes throughout the upcoming week.  You are a Colorado &#8216;Treasure&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Another Reason McCain is Bad for Colorado: He Wants Our Water by Robert Pike</title>
		<link>http://blog.coloradodems.org/2008/08/15/another-reason-mccain-is-bad-for-colorado-he-wants-our-water/#comment-30179</link>
		<author>Robert Pike</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 01:24:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.coloradodems.org/2008/08/15/another-reason-mccain-is-bad-for-colorado-he-wants-our-water/#comment-30179</guid>
					<description>I wonder if the oil company lobbists needing water for their "oil shale" development projects will fight SB119.  This will be an intresting piece of legislation to follow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if the oil company lobbists needing water for their &#8220;oil shale&#8221; development projects will fight SB119.  This will be an intresting piece of legislation to follow.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Another Reason McCain is Bad for Colorado: He Wants Our Water by Robert Pike</title>
		<link>http://blog.coloradodems.org/2008/08/15/another-reason-mccain-is-bad-for-colorado-he-wants-our-water/#comment-30178</link>
		<author>Robert Pike</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 01:22:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.coloradodems.org/2008/08/15/another-reason-mccain-is-bad-for-colorado-he-wants-our-water/#comment-30178</guid>
					<description>http://www.durangoherald.com/asp-bin/article_generation.asp?article_type=earth&#38;article_path=/earth/08/earth080717_1.htm

Collecting public rainwater is tricky
Legislature considers ways to make it legal
July 17, 2008
By Dale Rodebaugh &#124; Herald Staff Writer 

Homeowners who capture rain from the roof to water plants or a garden are breaking Colorado state law. No kidding. 

The right to use water in Colorado - unlike Eastern states - is based on what is called the prior appropriation doctrine. A water right depends on when a user's claim is legally recognized. First come, first served. 

But judging from conversation Tuesday evening when about 30 La Plata County residents gathered at the Eco Home Center in Durango to hear a New Mexico rainwater harvest expert, the law may be observed more in the breach than the observance. 

The talk was reminiscent of O.J. Simpson telling how he "would have" killed his ex-wife and her male friend had he committed the murders. Doug Pushard with Santa Fe-based HarvestH20 and the audience talked of the pros and cons of rain-collection methods in the abstract - how rain could be diverted for household use should a homeowner decide to do so. 

"Grass roots is how we changed this country," said Pushard, a water systems and water conservation expert. 

Marta Ahrens, the public information officer at the state Division of Water Resources in Denver, said the law indeed says that water in Colorado belongs to the public and can't be hijacked along the way. The law applies to rainwater, because theoretically it could find its way to a stream where it could satisfy the demand of someone with a water right. 

"Actually, we're pretty lenient," Ahrens said. "We send a cease-and-desist order, but we don't have the manpower to investigate unless we have a water commissioner in the area. Neighbors are often the ones to complain about the diversion of rainwater." 

The office receives a couple of inquiries a week about using rain for personal projects, Ahrens said. Rain can be diverted for irrigation if a permit applicant has an augmentation plan - a way to replace the same amount of water, she said. 

"We also get calls to the effect, 'Other states allow it, and New Mexico encourages it, so why don't we?'" Ahrens said. 

Colorado Gov. Bill Ritter in the just-ended legislative session signed a Senate bill that would have allowed rural homeowners to collect rain for irrigation. But the original legislation was neutered and sent to a committee for further study. 

Bruce Whitehead, executive director of the Southwestern Water Conservation District and the Animas-La Plata Water Conservancy District, said SB119 fell apart when an attempt was made to include urban settings where multi-unit housing is common.

Whitehead said the prohibition on diverting rain makes sense along the Florida and La Plata rivers. Those two La Plata County rivers often can't satisfy all water rights. This triggers a "call" on the river, meaning that a water user with a long-time right gets a full allotment even if a junior claimant is left in the dust.

Whitehead said there are areas on the lower Animas River where taking rainwater should have no effect on water rights.

Ahrens expects SB119 to be revived when the legislature reconvenes. If and when the bill is crafted, she said, it probably will contain a provision for pilot projects.

Pushard said New Mexico, Texas, Washington, Hawaii and the Virgin Islands have very progressive rain-harvesting systems. But even so, water conservation, particularly in toilets, showers and faucets, is the place to start, he said.

The United States consumes 150 gallons of water a day person, Pushard said. On the other end of the spectrum is Germany, where daily per capita water consumption is 33 gallons. Germany also has laws promoting the use of rain.

The Eco Home Center will soon carry equipment for rain-diversion systems. The basics of such a system are a downspout, a filter and a place to store the water.</description>
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<p>Collecting public rainwater is tricky<br />
Legislature considers ways to make it legal<br />
July 17, 2008<br />
By Dale Rodebaugh | Herald Staff Writer </p>
<p>Homeowners who capture rain from the roof to water plants or a garden are breaking Colorado state law. No kidding. </p>
<p>The right to use water in Colorado - unlike Eastern states - is based on what is called the prior appropriation doctrine. A water right depends on when a user&#8217;s claim is legally recognized. First come, first served. </p>
<p>But judging from conversation Tuesday evening when about 30 La Plata County residents gathered at the Eco Home Center in Durango to hear a New Mexico rainwater harvest expert, the law may be observed more in the breach than the observance. </p>
<p>The talk was reminiscent of O.J. Simpson telling how he &#8220;would have&#8221; killed his ex-wife and her male friend had he committed the murders. Doug Pushard with Santa Fe-based HarvestH20 and the audience talked of the pros and cons of rain-collection methods in the abstract - how rain could be diverted for household use should a homeowner decide to do so. </p>
<p>&#8220;Grass roots is how we changed this country,&#8221; said Pushard, a water systems and water conservation expert. </p>
<p>Marta Ahrens, the public information officer at the state Division of Water Resources in Denver, said the law indeed says that water in Colorado belongs to the public and can&#8217;t be hijacked along the way. The law applies to rainwater, because theoretically it could find its way to a stream where it could satisfy the demand of someone with a water right. </p>
<p>&#8220;Actually, we&#8217;re pretty lenient,&#8221; Ahrens said. &#8220;We send a cease-and-desist order, but we don&#8217;t have the manpower to investigate unless we have a water commissioner in the area. Neighbors are often the ones to complain about the diversion of rainwater.&#8221; </p>
<p>The office receives a couple of inquiries a week about using rain for personal projects, Ahrens said. Rain can be diverted for irrigation if a permit applicant has an augmentation plan - a way to replace the same amount of water, she said. </p>
<p>&#8220;We also get calls to the effect, &#8216;Other states allow it, and New Mexico encourages it, so why don&#8217;t we?&#8217;&#8221; Ahrens said. </p>
<p>Colorado Gov. Bill Ritter in the just-ended legislative session signed a Senate bill that would have allowed rural homeowners to collect rain for irrigation. But the original legislation was neutered and sent to a committee for further study. </p>
<p>Bruce Whitehead, executive director of the Southwestern Water Conservation District and the Animas-La Plata Water Conservancy District, said SB119 fell apart when an attempt was made to include urban settings where multi-unit housing is common.</p>
<p>Whitehead said the prohibition on diverting rain makes sense along the Florida and La Plata rivers. Those two La Plata County rivers often can&#8217;t satisfy all water rights. This triggers a &#8220;call&#8221; on the river, meaning that a water user with a long-time right gets a full allotment even if a junior claimant is left in the dust.</p>
<p>Whitehead said there are areas on the lower Animas River where taking rainwater should have no effect on water rights.</p>
<p>Ahrens expects SB119 to be revived when the legislature reconvenes. If and when the bill is crafted, she said, it probably will contain a provision for pilot projects.</p>
<p>Pushard said New Mexico, Texas, Washington, Hawaii and the Virgin Islands have very progressive rain-harvesting systems. But even so, water conservation, particularly in toilets, showers and faucets, is the place to start, he said.</p>
<p>The United States consumes 150 gallons of water a day person, Pushard said. On the other end of the spectrum is Germany, where daily per capita water consumption is 33 gallons. Germany also has laws promoting the use of rain.</p>
<p>The Eco Home Center will soon carry equipment for rain-diversion systems. The basics of such a system are a downspout, a filter and a place to store the water.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Another Reason McCain is Bad for Colorado: He Wants Our Water by Robert Pike</title>
		<link>http://blog.coloradodems.org/2008/08/15/another-reason-mccain-is-bad-for-colorado-he-wants-our-water/#comment-30171</link>
		<author>Robert Pike</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 21:39:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.coloradodems.org/2008/08/15/another-reason-mccain-is-bad-for-colorado-he-wants-our-water/#comment-30171</guid>
					<description>McCains primary reason for supporting renegotiating the water contract is so that the oil companies currently conducting test drilling for oil shale will have access to the massive amounts of water necessary for converting the Kerogen into oil.  It is estimated that it will take 1 to 3 barrels of water to make 1 barrel of oil from the Kerogen.  The oil firms have been busy buying up water rights to all the ranches and farms on the Western slope of the Rockies for months anticipating higher oil prices on world commodity exchanges to make "oil shale" profitable.  

http://cbs4denver.com/business/shell.oil.shale.2.716000.html

Shell Buys Water Rights For Oil-Shale Refining
DENVER (AP) ― Royal Dutch Shell has been buying water rights in western Colorado for possible use in getting petroleum out of oil shale, and that has some water officials and conservation groups concerned. 

Shell won't say how much water the company has purchased, and state and local governments say they don't have complete ownership records. 

Positions on issues like these are crafted so that McCain can attract the energy industries campaign donations and independent committees expenses in favor of his run for the White House.  The tactic is working!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/07/26/AR2008072601891.html

Industry Gushed Money After Reversal on Drilling
Sunday, July 27, 2008; Page A10 

Campaign contributions from oil industry executives to Sen. John McCain rose dramatically in the last half of June, after the senator from Arizona made a high-profile split with environmentalists and reversed his opposition to the federal ban on offshore drilling. 

Oil and gas industry executives and employees donated $1.1 million to McCain last month -- three-quarters of which came after his June 16 speech calling for an end to the ban -- compared with $116,000 in March, $283,000 in April and $208,000 in May.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>McCains primary reason for supporting renegotiating the water contract is so that the oil companies currently conducting test drilling for oil shale will have access to the massive amounts of water necessary for converting the Kerogen into oil.  It is estimated that it will take 1 to 3 barrels of water to make 1 barrel of oil from the Kerogen.  The oil firms have been busy buying up water rights to all the ranches and farms on the Western slope of the Rockies for months anticipating higher oil prices on world commodity exchanges to make &#8220;oil shale&#8221; profitable.  </p>
<p><a href="http://cbs4denver.com/business/shell.oil.shale.2.716000.html" rel="nofollow">http://cbs4denver.com/business/shell.oil.shale.2.716000.html</a></p>
<p>Shell Buys Water Rights For Oil-Shale Refining<br />
DENVER (AP) ― Royal Dutch Shell has been buying water rights in western Colorado for possible use in getting petroleum out of oil shale, and that has some water officials and conservation groups concerned. </p>
<p>Shell won&#8217;t say how much water the company has purchased, and state and local governments say they don&#8217;t have complete ownership records. </p>
<p>Positions on issues like these are crafted so that McCain can attract the energy industries campaign donations and independent committees expenses in favor of his run for the White House.  The tactic is working!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/07/26/AR2008072601891.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/07/26/AR2008072601891.html</a></p>
<p>Industry Gushed Money After Reversal on Drilling<br />
Sunday, July 27, 2008; Page A10 </p>
<p>Campaign contributions from oil industry executives to Sen. John McCain rose dramatically in the last half of June, after the senator from Arizona made a high-profile split with environmentalists and reversed his opposition to the federal ban on offshore drilling. </p>
<p>Oil and gas industry executives and employees donated $1.1 million to McCain last month &#8212; three-quarters of which came after his June 16 speech calling for an end to the ban &#8212; compared with $116,000 in March, $283,000 in April and $208,000 in May.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Another Reason McCain is Bad for Colorado: He Wants Our Water by Peter B.</title>
		<link>http://blog.coloradodems.org/2008/08/15/another-reason-mccain-is-bad-for-colorado-he-wants-our-water/#comment-30161</link>
		<author>Peter B.</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 15:48:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.coloradodems.org/2008/08/15/another-reason-mccain-is-bad-for-colorado-he-wants-our-water/#comment-30161</guid>
					<description>I'm with Sen. Salazar on this one. But why is it still illegal to collect rainwater in Colorado? It's perfectly acceptable in Tucson, which gets less rain and yet just collecting from the roof will provide a family all the water they will need for a year - and that collection period happens in just a few months: the monsoon season.

I would have loved to have the rainwater from the storm of the past 2 days collected in a cistern, but that would be criminal under existing laws. Do we really have to dam the Yampa River?? The answer is no.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with Sen. Salazar on this one. But why is it still illegal to collect rainwater in Colorado? It&#8217;s perfectly acceptable in Tucson, which gets less rain and yet just collecting from the roof will provide a family all the water they will need for a year - and that collection period happens in just a few months: the monsoon season.</p>
<p>I would have loved to have the rainwater from the storm of the past 2 days collected in a cistern, but that would be criminal under existing laws. Do we really have to dam the Yampa River?? The answer is no.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Reps. Andrew Romanoff and Kathleen Curry Meet in Gunnison with Education Leaders by viagra for cheap</title>
		<link>http://blog.coloradodems.org/2007/06/17/reps-andrew-romanoff-and-kathleen-curry-meet-in-gunnison-with-education-leaders/#comment-30018</link>
		<author>viagra for cheap</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 11:15:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.coloradodems.org/2007/06/17/reps-andrew-romanoff-and-kathleen-curry-meet-in-gunnison-with-education-leaders/#comment-30018</guid>
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		<title>Comment on Here&#8217;s How to Get Invesco Credent&#8230; Oh, Wait&#8230; by Chris Culbreath</title>
		<link>http://blog.coloradodems.org/2008/08/08/heres-how-to-get-invesco-credent-oh-wait/#comment-29991</link>
		<author>Chris Culbreath</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 17:23:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.coloradodems.org/2008/08/08/heres-how-to-get-invesco-credent-oh-wait/#comment-29991</guid>
					<description>What about Obama Colorado Preceinct captains during the Caucuses?  I haven't received an email or phone call regarding people that worked hard to get Obama the state of Colorado in the first place (just more calls and emails for donations). I would think that those captains would at the very least be invited to some function put on by the DNC if not have a seat at Invesco.  That is a shame!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about Obama Colorado Preceinct captains during the Caucuses?  I haven&#8217;t received an email or phone call regarding people that worked hard to get Obama the state of Colorado in the first place (just more calls and emails for donations). I would think that those captains would at the very least be invited to some function put on by the DNC if not have a seat at Invesco.  That is a shame!!!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Here&#8217;s How to Get Invesco Credent&#8230; Oh, Wait&#8230; by how to write a cover letter</title>
		<link>http://blog.coloradodems.org/2008/08/08/heres-how-to-get-invesco-credent-oh-wait/#comment-29964</link>
		<author>how to write a cover letter</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 19:36:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I'm definately adding you to my feed reading list ;)</description>
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